
Rocky Pofahl
Assistant Vice President-Surety at EMC Insurance Companies, specializing in surety bond underwriting and construction finance
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Jun 23, 2026
#162 Subcontractor Success Strategies
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Rocky PofahlGUEST
We kind of had to help educate, like, look, there's a lot more retainage from when you were doing $10 million jobs and now you're doing a $65 million job.

Rocky PofahlGUEST
How are you going to cash flow that? We always look at it as, we only give them like so many firsts, like, hey, first time you did this, first time you did, yup, you're out.

Rocky PofahlGUEST
But it's important they understand, and I think they do, but the dollar amounts that these data centers are paying subcontractors to get the work done, it's very enticing to them.
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Rocky PofahlGUEST
Yeah, we've seen, you know, the Northwest had it up in the Northwest, one of the biggest areas that started these retainage bonds.

Rocky PofahlGUEST
So over time, it just You knew it was going to start flowing out, but now Colorado did one.
