sure.But in this world, even when you slow down, stay calm, and do everything you've trained to do, sometimes the machine gets a vote

We got, like, a weird sound, just, like, something, like, something is different.

You know? Like, uh, not broken, but, like, almost like somebody hit the side of your car, like this sound of, like, a little bit of bang.

And, like, I'm just, I froze, and I remember, like, in the backseat, there was, uh, Frank Wagner is a German instructor, like F4 pilot.

He was in T38, like, full experience, and, uh, he just came with this German accent and said, like, "Oh, just do your emergency response." So, like, I'm almost thinking that is, uh, just, like, a simulated emergency.

Back then we're still doing a simulated emergency in the flight, so, like, I was expecting him to say, like, "All right, emergency secure.

Keep going." So, like, I'm doing, like, easy zoom, trying to just, like...

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