What, what's your personal view on it before we, we get into the creation of the website?

Yeah, that's a really good question, actually, because I mean, I don't think any of us really know for sure what's going on, you know, in Hellebuyck's mind about this, and there's been lots of speculation about this or that.

You know, I, I suspect it's, um, the, the real reasons are some, you know, some things we don't fully understand or know.

But, uh, you know, that's, that's a personal decision for him.

But, uh, you know, I, I think what I and a lot of fans and Winnipeggers are feeling is just, you know, the fact that when you sign a contract, you typically try to fulfill the contract.

So it w- it wasn't that long ago he said he wanted to be a Jet for life, so I think that's why a lot of, uh, a lot of folks are feeling a little burned by this.

But, uh, I'm sure he's got his own reasons that, that we're probably not fully aware of.

Uh, th- uh, [laughs] how did you come up with the, the, the, the things that you would say, "Well, uh, this, uh, th- so far that represents, uh, this many Fat Boys," for example?

It talks about another referendum on separating.

right right i call this a soft question because it really is a referendum on holding another referendum and that's pretty different from uh you know a lot of the hypothetical questions that were asked in some of these polls earlier in the year so for example one of the polls that i conducted with my partners at probe research we asked what i think a lot of pollsters asked at the time which was a hypothetical question and it was a hard hypothetical question so we asked you know if a referendum were held tomorrow on alberta separating how would you vote and we found about 70 percent of people when faced with that hard hypothetical question would vote no but now albertans are facing this sort of soft question which is you know would you how would you would you prefer to see you know alberta have a referendum in the future on separating or no referendum? And when you ask that question, I think there were some more recent polls that had more like 65% of people saying, no referendum, please, we just want to stay in Canada.

But you do get maybe as high as 35% of people saying, yeah, you know what, I'd be open to having another referendum in the future.

But that's a very different question, of course, than asking, do you want to separate from Canada right now? I

But there's also an educational split that I found really interesting, right? Walk us through that.

Yeah, so this is something that we see quite consistently along a range of issues from all sorts of pollsters in Canada, in the United States, in Europe.

And one of the bigger dividing lines these days when it comes to people's opinions is education.

And it can be a touchy subject to discuss because sometimes people get their backs up a little bit.

What's the premise?

The premise is that consistently polling has been a few points short on actual conservative voters than actually show up in elections when you can actually gauge how, how, how accurate polls are, right? The, the best way we have to gauge the accuracy of public opinion research is typically elections, 'cause that's when you can, you know, take that one final survey right before the election and then see what happens next week.

And it's not perfect 'cause, you know, things can change in a week, um, in a, in a campaign, um, and so the snapshot in time you had just before the vote might be a little different than how people actually vote on the day.

But pretty consistently over time, we have seen, you know, election polls just undershoot the conservative actual vote pretty consistently across time and across jurisdictions.

Pollsters do take steps to mitigate this.

They, you know, there, there's weighting that they apply to their polls to help deal with it.

It's, it, it's a known factor.

... group of people to look at all of this.