I, I'm just curious if, if you were able to do any of those, that kind of thinking.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, there's... it's, it's always helpful to have context, uh, to why people do the things that they do.

As you said, it's, it's not an excuse, but it does, it does help give understanding.

Um, and so yeah, with my dad, I mean, he grew up in a very volatile home himself, and his...

both his mom and dad were severe alcoholics, and so that was a huge dynamic.

Now thankfully, that was not a dynamic in my upbringing.

as your kids have grown up, even as you're parenting adult kids, that maybe are making decisions you don't agree with all the time? What, what are some things you would wanna encourage people with?