What are some of the places that you've lived that were really formative to the way you think about the world? What are some of the previous businesses that you started along the way?

So Italy is kind of I moved to Italy at 23.

I married my husband almost 30 years ago.

And I was this little, you know, this girl from Idaho.

And my parents traveled me.

Well, it's not like I hadn't ever been anywhere.

But just to move from Idaho to Italy, I was a BSU graduate, got married right after my senior year.

You found a friend who had a kitchen and how did it all kind of get going after that?