So your first event when you actually became a full-on witness, could you take us through it?

Yeah, so well just before that, I should say that you always have in the back of your mind, you know, are these-- this thing real? Is, is what these people...

Actually, maybe they're all mistaken.

You've always got that sort of little bit of doubt, but yeah, when I saw it myself, after that, I was like, "Wow, okay.

Well, well these are definitely real then," because I was in the New Land area in the Forest of Dean and, uh, just leaving a friend's house, walking towards the car, and there's a, there's a few agricultural fields right in front of me.

I could see something the size of a black Labrador, but it wasn't a Labrador.

I had two minutes to watch this, this thing, and it had a big long tail that curled at the end just like on the, uh, Jungle Book panther that you always see in the pictures and videos.

So take us through that.