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Robert Walker

Robert Walker is a Research Fellow and economist at the Lowy Institute's Indo-Pacific Development Centre, covering international economics, trade and supply chains.

Aug 19, 2026

11:47
So Rob, can you tell me how does AI play into the picture, and how does Southeast Asia play into the AI picture?
11:53
picture?Yeah.
11:54
So I think, uh, that's a really interesting dynamic that's emerged in the last few years.
11:59
So basically, there's a huge build-out of data center capacity to support, uh, the AI industry now, and that's happening globally, but mainly in China, the US, and, and s- uh, some other locations in the Indo-Pacific, like Japan, Australia, and Malaysia.
12:15
Those data centers, they basically require these very advanced leading edge semiconductors, uh, known as GPUs, to power these AI models.
12:23
But actually, those data centers, it's not just those advanced semiconductors.
12:27
There's a whole host of, you know, uh, server equipment, uh, cooling systems that are needed, as well as, like, other electronics that help, uh, a data center run.
14:21
That seems to go against the grain of a lot of thinking out there, so what's your argument?
20:17
Do you want to talk a little bit about the America First agenda and its impact on the economies in Southeast Asia?
20:24
Yeah, sure.
20:25
So thanks, Jess, for the question.
20:28
I guess with the America First agenda, we see, as you said, a very transactionalist approach.
20:33
So Trump views, as Richard said, bilateral deficits with other countries as a huge negative.
20:39
So he views international commerce and trade in a very zero sum manner.
20:45
You could even hop back to kind of mechanicalist thinking around trade or protectionist thinking of the 1930s.

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41:04
Rob?

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