So I'm gonna throw this back over to Robert and ask him, when did identity really become that battleground that we're seeing now in cybersecurity and what changed? What got us from there to here? Oh,

thank you, Dawn.

Well, I'm not a cybersecurity historian and I'm sure people have different opinions on this.

But I read a lot about Okta.

I follow Okta pretty closely.

They went public in 2017.

And that was before the pandemic.

the amount of risk that they're creating in their own business, I mean, unintentionally, it's not malicious, it's not anything like that, but do you think they're understanding what's really, especially, and this is a completely off-topic question, but with AI coming into the picture, do you think they're really grasping how much risk is there?