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And Paul Loeb lived in, uh, a town, uh, just north of, of Chicago, and I happened to grow up in that town.

And so I'd heard about logistics.

And Paul not just created American Backhaulers, and really is the godfather of modern-day, uh, freight brokerage, but he spawned this ecosystem in the northern suburbs of Chicago that created, I'd say, 20-plus CEOs of top 200 3PLs.

Um, so it was, it was sort of by default, uh, maybe by where I lived, that I just gravitated towards logistics, walked on the floor at AFN, and, uh, two days later had a role.

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That, that was definitely...

So here was the best advice I got from a leader.

And for those that are not familiar with you as well as Envoy AI, kind of give us at a glance, you know, detailed overview of who you are, what you've done, and kind of what Envoy AI is bringing to the industry.

Yeah, so first I wanna just give a shout out to everyone in the industry that started out in the warehouse, everyone in the industry that started out behind a computer working 12, 14 hour shifts.

This logistics industry is tough.

And I think we talk about AI, we talk about technology.

We do not talk about the human, the people that are driving this industry, this economy in this country forward.

and so i just i want to give a shout out to to all those people and then secondly we were talking about you you mentioned drivers right there um this is near and dear to my heart i started in the warehouse i started uh first loading trucks i learned a lot from the ups fedex drivers that would unload every day uh and then from the long haul guys i got in uh my first delivery uh vehicle it was definitely not a truck i didn't have a cdl at the age of 16 and started delivering around Chicago.

And when you pull up and it's six in the morning or it's late at night and you're cold and you're just trying to get your product unloaded, you're looking for a BOL, you needed to get signed.

And then secondly, when you look at the next three to five years and we're talking about the future, what's the biggest systemic problem that the industry needs to solve right here, right now?