So what are your thoughts on that?

Well, absolutely.

Well, first of all, I think that technology wins wars.

There's no doubt about it.

You go back to World War II, the Norden bomb site, radar, you know, we had radar.

And interesting story, some of the Axis powers were really interested in how we could shoot down planes which were behind clouds.

And we spread the rumor, this was a great rumor, that we were having our pilots eat more carrots.

For example, if you think of just any type of career field, even just let's say with engineers, with what you do as a professor, do you see AI taking all of these different jobs?

Sure.

Uh, Michael, who is, uh, renowned in his field, was given an invitation to submit a paper to a journal called, uh, Entropy, and, uh, they invited him.

And, uh, so he decided that he wanted to write about integrated information theory and contacted me.

I'm a mathematical nerd, he's a neurosurgeon, and so we fit together on that because the integrated information theory is a very heavily mathematical, uh, issue.

It turns out that there is a bias in reference.

Both Michael and I appeared in the movie "Expelled," and back then it was a push, push away against intelligent design.

Anything that was against intelligent design, uh, was, was good.

Yeah.