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Robert Kaplan

Robert Kaplan

Robert D. Kaplan, geopolitical analyst and author, senior fellow at CNAS and chief geopolitical analyst at Eurasia Group.

Apr 8, 2025

Alec RussellMODERATOR
24:55
But Robert, you will have a longer
24:57
view.
24:58
I would say a few things about India.
25:00
India is the ultimate pivot state, the ultimate pivot state between China and the United States.
25:08
It's, I think, more consequential than the other members of the Global South.
25:15
And it's led by their first geopolitically-minded leader in their history since independence.
25:23
Because the Nehruvian prime ministers all had, well, somewhat of a chip on their shoulder because of colonialism, all of that.
speaker_4UNKNOWN
27:52
What about the military?
Alec RussellMODERATOR
16:17
In that context then, how worried are you about the democratic fabric of your country, of America? How worried are you that the impact of the Trump administration on institutions will be impossible to reverse?
16:39
In part of the book, I make the argument that all three great powers are in decline.
16:45
The United States, China, and Russia.
16:48
But all for different reasons and all very gradually.
16:52
And decline itself can be overrated because it can take place over centuries and decades.
16:59
But I do think that...
17:01
The United States is in decline.

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Alec RussellMODERATOR
30:17
The systems are weakening and the most dangerous time for an autocracy is when power is starting to fracture.

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