What, I guess what prompted that? What, at what point did you decide, you know, you didn't wanna just, you didn't wanna just stay here and, and hunt in Georgia, you wanted to kinda spread out and try some of these other states? What, what brought that about?

Well, that's actually an interesting one.

Kentucky, that's, that's a, a, a bigger ball of wax.

Um, the reason I went to Kentucky is 'cause I had participated, and this is kinda how I got involved with the NDA, um, I had participated in Mark Kenyon's Working For Wildlife Tour.

Um, you know, they promoted it really well in the podcast that I was already listening to.

Um, I knew that they were going to be in several states, but they weren't coming anywhere close to me down here, uh, in Georgia, and I noticed that they were going to be in Kentucky.

And so I hopped on Google.

But, um, can you kinda walk through what led to that decision? I mean, you, again, you mentioned attending the, the Working for Wildlife event, but kinda walk us through how that led to, you know, getting involved with your, your local branch there in, in Georgia, your local NDA branch.

Or you know, so is everything-- is there a genital and an oral version, or which, which infections, uh, show up with a throat test?

test?Well, gonorrhea and chlamydia are the ones that show up on a throat test.

There is, um, you said HPV.

HPV is also site specific, and a lot of people don't realize that.

So let's say that a woman goes to her Pap smear, finds out she has HPV.

Okay, now let's take the inverse of that.

She went, got her Pap smear, found out she doesn't have HPV.

How do you think it serves people to be talking more openly about STIs and learning about them and, you know, maybe they're probably gonna go in more, potentially more informed than even their doctors?

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Uh, I think the thing that people that are listening and watching should know, just paint what you really love to do, you know? Don't feel, uh, compelled to pursue things that are not inspiring to you.

And I'll, uh, just mention one little episode, uh, in my art experience.

Uh, I was in a gallery in, uh, Santa Fe, New Mexico, and, uh, I'd had a, a wonderful, successful show, I'm happy to say, and not being boastful, just, uh, just it was, uh, they did a good job at marketing the art.

And I had, uh, like 23 still lifes in it, what they wanted.

And, uh, I had...

They were all recent work that I had just created.

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And he said, "Well, we don't do that here, but don't worry because if you had it orally, you would also have it genitally." He was flat wrong.

Um, but I didn't know nearly as much about it at the time as I do now, of course.

So off I go to the second doctor, and the second doctor ordered the test and then sent me to the lab.

And there, a phlebotomist did it.

It was not her first day on the job.

She was not a, a young woman.

What, what's your top [laughs] what's your top tip for STI prevention?

But before we get into all of those things, because you guys are doing so much to make sexual health and wellness affordable and actionable for people and it's just an amazing thing so we wanted to talk about all the different things that we have going on but before we do that i want to talk a little bit about the actual sexual health and wellness and and kind of get a little bit of an origin story if you don't mind telling us about why shameless care came into being

Well, shameless care came into being because I had gonorrhea and spread it to somebody.

So I had always imagined myself as like this really progressive guy when it comes to sexual health and had gotten STI tested every six months, I think it was, for years, well over a decade.

And every single time I went, it was a blood draw and a urine test and out the door I go.

And the test always said it included gonorrhea.

Okay, gonorrhea negative, life goes on.

But then I took the test.

So let's talk about medically, what are some of the other medical ones before we start talking about like the oxytocin spray or anything like that? Like what the true kind of medical stuff that's the prescription-y kind of medicine.

Mm-hmm.

So you're not alone.

So that's what we're trying to solve is provide that visibility into unexpected changes on almost every type of system that drives a modern day infrastructure.

So yes, that means files, changes to your registry, new applications being loaded, even changes to your own Zero Trust Zscaler platform, ZI and ZPI.

We're really focused on going deep and wide to monitor as much as possible.

So what do we do when we do detect that something has happened? Well, A, we strive to detect these changes in real time.

So if that file was added to that critical system of yours, we would have detected it right away in real time, let you know about it in our console, also sent off information to your SIEM or log banishment solution.

But,

So do you wanna just speak on that a little bit?

Sure.

Well, a little history first, Eve, if we will.

It came out in 2006, and at first it was only given to girls, like your, like your daughter.

In about 2013 or so, I think they started deciding, "Why don't we just give this to boys as well?" And they did.

And at that time, I think the top age where it was recommended and your insurance would cover it was 26, I believe.

They've since increased that to 45.

And so I would love to hear your thoughts about what sorts of things we should be having conversations about before we jump into bed with somebody.

Mm-hmm

... and then she was feeding off of that energy and giving it right back to me.

And we're kind of feeding off of each other and having this reciprocal, magical, organic, you know, event.

And so that's exactly the right way, I think, for people to think about these medications, is that they do help.

And sometimes when you're being helped 5%, 10%, 20%, that just makes your energy better, and then that makes your partner's energy better, and then the next thing you know you're having much better sex than you would have in the first place.

So that's exactly, I think, the right way to think about these medications, like Shameless Desire or Shameless Arousal, which is a topical sildenafil cream that you can use externally.

Or even PT-141.

Mm-hmm.

So tell us your story.

All right.

Well, about five or six years ago, I was living my life and getting STI tested every six months.

I felt like that was the right thing to do.

There was never anything wrong with me.

I never felt like there was anything going on.

I just knew that you were supposed to do that, so I, [chuckles] I did it, of course.

So help these guys get in the psychological frame of mind here to first of all realize that this is something we should be paying attention to, and it's something that's really just part of life, not something that's driven by shame, or shouldn't be driven by shame.

yeah me too so you have a story that started this whole thing there was this missed sti diagnosis and it changed your life can you tell us that story let's just jump in

Sure, absolutely.

So I had gotten a full, you know, I'm doing the air quotes, full STI panel every six months and everything had always been negative and it always included gonorrhea.

But then one day I got a text and this was only a couple of weeks after I got my last STI test result back.

I got a text from a partner and she said, you've given me gonorrhea because my husband now has it and everything's pointing back to you, meaning I had infected her and she had infected him.

And obviously she was asymptomatic and I was asymptomatic.

And I thought to myself, well, that can't be.

But can you talk about the ease of not having to go to a doctor's office and wait for an appointment and wait in the waiting room for 10 years and then finally get in? And are you even being tested for what you need? Like, can you just walk us through what that experience is like?

And so let's talk about what Shameless Desire is.

Well, Shameless Desire is erectile dysfunction medication for women basically.

It is 10 milligrams of tadalafil, and that is the active ingredient in Cialis.

And let's just stop right there for a second.

There's two more ingredients, but let's stop right there, 'cause people are probably thinking, "What?" The research on erectile dysfunction medications in women is really profound, and you can find a lot of it on our website.

In terms of increased blood flow to the genitals, it essentially does a similar thing in women as it does in men, and everybody can intuitively understand what erectile dysfunction medication drugs do in men.

Likewise in women, it increases blood flow to the genitals, and that can improve so many things about the sexual experience as we're getting older.

Okay

Robert, can you describe to us for people who aren't, like we're talking marathon length runners, before there was this more efficient and less GI impactful way of carb loading during a race? What did it feel like at the end of a marathon when you were just carb depleted, your muscles were kind of maxed out? What did it feel like in the body?

Um, not good.

I used to feel like I had like also a brain fog, like you're so tired, your brain is tired too.

And I think, I think that some of this really helps your brain feel good now.

I mean, I think that the nutrition goes with the shoes.

It's a combo effect because you're taking 22,000 steps in a race and two to three times your body weight is coming down every step.

So your legs feel much better and then you're not out of fuel.

Is that right?

That's because goods producers rely on the services sector.

A car producer will use lawyers, accountants and bankers in order to produce that car.

And so all of the services that those car firms use ought to be also worried about retaliatory tariffs on US exports of goods.

Johnson says China and other countries have plenty of other tools they can use to crack down on American services.

So for example, they could announce, you know, restrictions on the ability of US consulting firms to do business in China or restrictions on US financial firms in selling financial services into various markets.