John Chowning

... on, on one side, and, um, experiencing, I don't know, Jeff Mills, um, or ...

But then, of course, also the Basic Channel folks, uh, performing.

And listening to that kind of music was ...

It, it was inevitable that I became part of this group of people.

And there was not really at the beginning an intention to become, uh, I don't know, to do this as a job or whatever.

I just ...

Yeah.