Then I moved to New York City when I graduated and started working in the film business right away.

And for me, same.

I went to film school and always kind of was a kid wanting to grow up and be Steven Spielberg, kind of a Dawson's Creek vibe.

Post film school, I, I found myself working in music licensing for mostly for commercials, and then got really interested in documentaries.

I met Paloma right around that time.

She was working on, like, big kind of HBO shows and movies doing locations.

Another friend of ours asked me to produce a music video.

Mm-hmm.