What's going on here? What's driving this?

Yeah, there's a few things going on.

Like first, I want to start saying like people should retire with security.

That should be a goal we have in society.

It should be a goal we have for public sector workers.

I think the question is, given that there's not infinite money, where should we spend money on compensating people? So what has happened with public sector pensions is a few things.

One, the public sector is able to make commitments that it doesn't fully fund.

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