Yeah.

And how do you continue to pass this tradition on to the next generation with this eschatological, this end of days vision of one day we'll... go back to a state of god loot with an acknowledgement that now we're in cut dude and we'll go back to god loot so how do you break out of that loop once you've turned the the the tools of survival and cut newt into once you've kind of been mccottish that and you've idealized those specific things only and everything else is for some future yeah that you can't even imagine and you've kind of turned that into something unachievable.

So that's...

You know, how do you break out of that? And like...

It requires someone with like real vision to try to like...

You know, some people break out of it by simply discarding the old...

the old tradition which is to say that was like secular Zionism did that among other modern movements that also did that communists you know Jewish communists are all these different kind of sects of the last since the post-enlightenment period where Jews were able to kind of break out of the ghetto which was a legal structure that kept them in the Jewish community whether they liked it or not And so, yeah, you could throw it all away, which is not something that I advocate personally.

And on the way out, when I was walking back to the car, I said, like, Robbie, like, what? what are you crying about? And he said, exactly as you're saying it, just like that sense of what can be in the space where the Shchino can be, will be, and that sense of loss and missing and sadness and pain.

Can you talk a little bit about the workflow and how much is coming off of there and where it might be going?

This is the biggest optical astronomy survey that's ever been done data-wise.

And it's one of the things that sets us apart.

It's one of the things that takes a lot of resources.

Most other telescopes, you apply for time.

And if you're awarded time, you go to that telescope.

And typically the exposures, not always, but most of the time these days, people are interested in very faint things.

So for my last question, as a lifelong astronomer here, what are you personally most excited about Rubin Observatory discovering?