How do you strike that balance between that natural change that's occurring and the conservation that you're doing there? Yeah.

That's a terrific question because this was part of my personal growth.

So like when I came to the Outer Banks to take this job, in my mind, my job was to save the marshes, right? The marshes are washing away rapidly with sea level rise.

The edges of the marshes are eroding faster.

And all the animals and plants that depend upon them, they're losing that function.

Well, because of the nature of these changing environments, in the future there will actually be more marsh in eastern North Carolina than there is now.

Because places like Alligator River are flooding.

What's it like back there in