Is that true? Or is that just something that has kind of happened and emerged kind of out of your relationship with Bob? I

think it's organic.

I enjoy the uniqueness of what you guys do.

And I'm not, I'm not driven by profits or money.

So if I, it's hard to make money on a one or two piece project.

I'll tell you that for sure.

Um, and so if, if, if we were bottom line, um, trying to pinch every penny we could get out of the stuff we had, you guys would be paying twice what you pay.

was going to say, perseverance.