So what was that founding experience like? How did you really get started on this?

Yeah, so it was with the patent.

I always say that embarking on an enterprise journey, at the time, for me, it felt like I needed to figure out a way to climb over a big brick wall.

And I was worried that I would have to do lots of training to become a business expert and all of this kind of thing.

But what I came to realize is that with the support that's available from University of Southampton and many universities around the UK, there is a journey you can go on that takes you step by step.

And so for me, the first step was the patent.

The patent introduced me to colleagues at the university who were focused on enterprise, focused on impact, and I had to pitch to them the case for funding the writing of a patent.

How have you gone from that original idea to now, you know, space? Because that doesn't sound like where your initial application was.