Chapter four: I told every journalist the same, "I won't talk to you." Eventually, his conviction would be downgraded to a 20-year sentence, and although he had to defend himself on more than one occasion to show he wasn't to be messed with, he says it actually wasn't all bad.

You know, it, it's-- I went...

It wasn't all shit.

That's the thing.

I actually learned a lot about myself in there.

I le- I learned a, a lot about some of the relationships I had with people.

It was, uh...

Do you remember the, remember the, the day you got told you were gonna be set free?

Do the Allied forces and that, are they aware of who you are and so you're never caught in crossfire?

Yeah, well, it depends on the units, you know.

Iraq mainly, I noticed this.

We never had any problem with the military over there.

Well, I didn't personally because we were pretty good at deconfliction with them.

There was the guy who was involved with the whole Sandline thing in Papua New Guinea.

He started a company over there called Aegeus.

He was a bit of a, from what I can gather, a bit of a nefarious dude, or I like to think he was at