And what about the, what about the actual rounds themselves? What did that go like for the weekend? What does it feel like being there? What were the things going through your mind as you went through the week and through the rounds?

Man, that's a great question.

Cause you know, I'm an emotional guy.

I, you know, when I say emotional guy, I wear my heart on my sleeve.

I try to stay level, but I, you know, you can tell when I'm mad, you can tell when I'm sad.

You know, I went out there the first week and I started playing good golf and I was on the third round and this is where it gets kind of cool and, you know, people can listen and they say, whatever, this is just coincidence.

But, you know, third round, I like to talk to people when I'm out in the golf course and there was four guys standing on the 10th tee and I'm making a turn and I'm like, hey guys, how you doing? What's happening? And they're like, wow, hey, how you doing? You're the first person that's talked to us today.

What kind of things have you got lifelong memories from as well?

How do you deal with the emotional highs and lows that you've had to go through over the last few years on the Champions Tour?

Yeah, I mean, um, I truly didn't really know what it meant when I, when I won Q-School.

I won Q-School.

I was exempt for 27 events.

Uh, I played, uh, solid that first year out there.

Um, finished I think 40th on the, on the Schwab Cup money list, so I wasn't in the top 36 but played in almost all the events again.

Um, I played well in the Senior Open, so I was exempt for the majors.

When you look at the PGA of America from a leadership perspective, and maybe just as an organization, what would you like to see them do differently or better?