Do you know how long it's being run for?

It will be a case of when he's ready, he will let us know and we'll get some seedlings and cuttings and do some comparisons using control and compare the two growth lots.

But there are other things, of course, that have happened with rhododendrons and plant breeding that have assisted in some of the things that a lot of people have had problems with, with growing rhododendrons and azaleas.

And one of the big ones in the last 20, 30 years has been lace bug.

So they didn't manage to prevent lace bug from coming into the country.

Somehow it got in.

And, you know, this is the reason why biosecurity is so important.

So if you're really interested in starting to experiment with rhododendrons and azaleas, you probably should join the Rhododendron Society and attend their meetings, which you hold when?