You know, what's actually happening? What do we actually mean when we say AI in talent acquisition?

Yeah, definitely.

So I think it works really well in some of the more repeatable high volume processes that we would run.

So what I tend to find is that some of those processes are, I would consider, like less risky to consider AI for.

So things we might be looking more at internal data points.

But when you start to look at processes which involve assessment data and more related to decision making, rubrics and so on, the risk, I think, for organizations kind of starts to scale up because that's where you really want to be clear on, not just human in the loop, but I would call it human agency.

And really, not just saying, oh, well, a human checked it, but does a human really make a decision on it? For me, those are two very different things.

Without trying to sound like some kind of marketing textbook, those kind of moments that matter in the process for putting those humans in place, Do you think people do a good job at actually working out what those are? Or are people just sort of defaulting to what they think they are or what their recruiters like doing, which might not necessarily be the best use of their time in that kind of process?

Tell us, uh, what accent that is, what brought you to LA, and maybe who Synopsys are, for those who aren't familiar with the organization.

Yeah, definitely.

Great to meet you, Johnny, and thanks for having me on the show.

Um, so yeah, I'm definitely not from LA.

I'm actually from Manchester, back home, rainy Manchester in the UK, and I've been working over here in California for the last couple of years now, which has been amazing.

Um, so my background is very much in TA operations, so back home in the UK I've been fortunate to work for some really, really incredible organizations.

First off, my career was very much in retail with businesses like the Cooperative Group, and then food manufacturing with Warburtons, and then I moved over into the healthcare sector for a while, working with some really great, um, healthcare businesses, My Dentist.

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