... on a, you know, whenever you're playing live.

Uh, but the whole point of it is catharsis, so a lot of time it is that, you know? And I try to make things as vague as possible so people can sort of get on the emotional wavelength and find some catharsis to it, because I do think that, like, negative art without, you know...

Negative art is just useless unless it's that way because there's a cathartic r- reason for it or level to it that people can attach themselves to.

Thing that's just like, I don't really wanna hear about what, you know, somebody's masturbatorial, you know, thing if there's, if there's no use of it.

It's just like, "Here's a dead thing in the corner.

It was a dead thing in the corner.

Now it's still a dead thing in the corner, and it doesn't do any good." Um, I don't know.

Mm.