make a very interesting point,

but you're not actually in charge, so...

Isn't it fascinating that Richard and Greg, two of the finest minds in this studio, certainly perhaps not beyond, but in this studio, have taken the level of this show somewhere else.

They've not been content to settle for glibness.

They've not gone for laughs, that's been very clear.

What did you think?

Well, we knew this.

This was...

What was the germ of this idea? I think it was the rhythm of that line, wasn't it?

Yes, it was.

Well, it's interesting.

You said earlier on you're not the first person in your position.

And that's why I had avoided it, right? Because I thought it's so predictable that someone with the opportunities that I have would do this.

So I avoided it.

And then we have this gorgeous cat crumble, lovely ginger Tom.

No, I love

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, that was a...

I, I, I got to know him.

He-- One day Claire came into the kitchen, and she h- was holding open a letter, and she said, "Oh, my God." I thought, "What is it?" And it was a letter from Barry.

He'd read me, uh, mentioning him in an interview, and he wrote me a lovely letter.

And then I ran into him.

So I wrote back to him.

And every moment was a pinch me moment?

[laughs] God no

...

he, he was not, he was not without his skills.

Um, let's just say that, right? Um, so yes, I would watch all sorts of people.

I always had a very wide taste in comedy, so from the very popular, popular stuff like Bruce Forsyth, watching what he did, and then the slightly more, uh, trendy stuff like Peter Cook and Dudley Moore.

Barry Humphries has always been a, a huge sort of hero of mine.

Um, but loads, loads of comedians.

when you started out, and now isn't.

Yeah, there's no

dissenting voice, is there? There's none.

I don't think so.

And I've seen, with her going, all these clips.

I saw a clip of her from 1976 singing That's the Way I Like It, uh-huh, uh-huh, with KC and the Sunshine Band.

I didn't know she'd done that.

I didn't know she'd done that either.

Carfest rubbing off on

Rob, do you like this day? I know you've been here before.

I love it.

I try and keep the day free because it's, uh, it's unique.

Um, I first came about, I don't know, over 10 years ago maybe.

And I've-- prior to that, if you'd said to me, "Do you wanna go to the Chelsea Flower?" I'd said, "Of course I don't wanna go to the...

Why would I wanna...

Chelsea Flower? I've never been to any flower shows." And then we came and just loved it.

And is there, is there gardening beyond that, or do you kind of scratch the gardening itch once a year here?

Mm-hmm

... subconsciously, not consciously.

I, you know, I, I just liked, always liked making people smile or laugh by... had an ability to do voices, and of course, not everybody can.

And when you can, you forget.

Like, not everybody can sing.

Not everybody can make their voice do silly things and sound like somebody else, but I was always able to do that.

So, wow, how lucky, you know.

Mm-hmm.