
Rob Baker
Rob Baker (FCIPD, MAPP) is a business psychologist and Founder & Chief Positive Deviant of Tailored Thinking, best known as a leading expert on job crafting and author of "Personalization at Work."
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Aug 20, 2026
Rob Baker - When a Teen Falls Away—How to Respond Well
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Rob BakerGUEST
I have been working for Apologia Express for over 20-some years, um, but I've also been a youth minister for 13-some years.

Rob BakerGUEST
And, uh, the topic here is, in the lesson series, is supposed to be, it's for youth ministers, but this is a lesson that is not just for youth ministers.

Rob BakerGUEST
This is something that the whole church needs to be, um, working on because there's a soul at stake.
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502 — The Eras Tour: Part 3 (The hybrid period)
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Rob BakerGUEST
So I think that actually when people have come back to the office, there has been opportunities for people to really think about actually what works for them.

Rob BakerGUEST
I think what we found is for some organizations, not for every organization at all, but there was a sense of, maybe in the media a little bit, but it's Pandora's box.
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24:15Ross GarnerHOST
Is that still job crafting in the spirit that you talk about it or has AI kind of curdled it into something much more anxiety provoking?