So maybe talk a little bit about that as well.

Yeah.

And I think there's definitely things I would do differently looking back.

But I think the main things that prompted were one, I always had this like inherent itch that I wanted to try starting a company just to learn what that's like.

Like, is it different? How is it different? What can I learn from it? And, you know, worst case, you could just go back.

Um, and so I'm 33 now.

I was 30 at the time and, or we cut turning 30 at the time.

way to think about what's next.