But was doing was doing music like this always something that you wanted to do? Or is it something that kind of came from time or whatever?

Yeah, I mean, honestly, Mike, to be quite clear with you, I never thought that I would be doing my own stuff.

I was like, I'm not that good of a singer, like, solo-ly.

Like, I can do the choir, and I, like, because I did choir my whole life.

And yeah, I, when I was doing my singing for musical theater, and I was doing things solo-ly, It was like, okay, this is great.

I can slip into a character and do a character voice when I'm singing.

And I can make it sound really good, which is why I also, funny enough, played a lot of the villains.

That's