Rick taught research methods at medical colleges, but even longer than that, Rick had suffered from chronic debilitating migraines, pain so severe that at one point it sent him to the emergency room.

I had migraines most of my life, and they were getting more and more serious, and they got even worse when I tried to do work with computers toward the end of my career.

Most of the time I could handle that through medications, but they're fairly severe migraines.

It got to the point where I couldn't continue to take the medications they had given me 'cause I was having cognitive trouble.

In 2018, I had this attack of just terrible vertigo.

I was in my office, and all of a sudden my head started spinning and ended up getting on the floor.

It's the worst kind of feeling.

For many who suffer from chronic pain, this is a familiar story, and that lack of explanation hurts even more.

One day, that building burned down.

And after the house burned and everybody moved out, nobody had looked underneath the house except for me.

And I found this tackle box, toolbox, metal, pulled it out, opened it up, and lo and behold, inside with the edges charred but everything else intact were four books about an inch and a half thick of Danish pornography.

I knew at eight years old things that my dad couldn't even imagine.

Sam, when I tell you that it all was in there, if it was categorically possible as a sex act, it was in those books.

I mean, I saw hetero, homo, bi.

I saw it all.

He told Sam that he lost his virginity at 11 to his best friend's older sister and was sexually active from that point forward.

When did you move here to this park?

So we moved down here, the second show we did, we did in a parking lot down the, down the, down the road here a little bit.

Um, and that one we had almost 200 trucks at that one, and we outgrew that the first time we did it.

Then we moved up to the, honestly, the lot right across the street.

We just keep moving to the bigger lots, and, uh, so now we kinda maxed this one out.

Now I'm not sure...

We're working on some things.

Yep

Huh.

Well, uh, so now it's a Sunday morning.

I was gonna go to my nephew's for breakfast.

And I said, "Okay, I'm halfway there." I said, "I'm gonna stop at the store and get, um, cheese in a jar so I can dip my french fries in the cheese." I got to the store, and as I'm walking to the aisle with the chips and the cheese, there's a container sitting on top of the cheese that I wanted to get.

I pulled the, pulled the container out from on top of the cheese, and it was my ribs that I had bought on Friday.

Wow

... where, where I had bought the ribs.

And, um, so I got the chills down my back, and I just put the ribs back where I found them, and I left.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah.

The, the desire to have another woman is, is not, it's, it's not in me at all.

And, and, and she knows that now.

She trusts that.

But we've done this so many times now.

Like, it, it's really, it's been a long road.

Why don't you give a shout-out to your OnlyFans, her OnlyFans, a- actually let people know what they get on there, and I will put the name of her OnlyFans in the description, but definitely give a shout-out to, like, the OnlyFans and the type of content that people get if they sign up.

Sign up at patreon.com/macvoices.

It's like the web scams.

Uh, you know, you get an email and it's got a, a, a thread in it, and you click on, you're supposed to click on this and it'll take you to your financial institution and things will get straightened out.

Well, don't click on it.

Go to the financial institution website yourself.

Um, uh, if your, uh, daughter is in trouble, call your daughter.

(laughs)

But the ads, and the warnings, and the, uh, legitimate emails are all over the place saying, "Don't do this kind of thing.

Um, Rick, you have a question or comment?

No, I don't know how my hand got put up.

Uh.

Y- you know, I find it interesting that it, it would reject something as, uh, so common.

Rick, walk us through what the last nine months has been like living here with this insanity.

Uh, p- I mean, basically, every single day I come out here, I walk my dog four times a day, I get called Nazi, um, they scream at me, they give me a hard time.

It's, you know, it's, it's ...

They're not, they, they say they're peaceful, but they're not peaceful.

They are very aggressive, especially at night.

I mean, thr- the day crew's not so bad, but, you know, at nighttime, I can't even come out here.

Um, my neighbors, you know, most of the females that are in here, they're terrified to come, even come out, so they, you know, they have to text me so that I can come out and help them.

The governor says it's, there's no problem.

Nope.

You go with your first seven and you make a decision.

That's essentially what Mark Dagnall has done, right? And you just can't...

You can't change that recipe once you've gotten here, and Rick Carlisle has done this all year long.

So when I see constantly an OKC team that no matter how well they play, and SGA has played well, I can't take anything away from them, and you get to the fourth quarter, and now they can't close the deal, either because they don't have the experience of closing the deal in close games-

Yeah.

Show me that you can put your guys in position and make your guys believe, make SGA believe, "All right, he's gonna put me in position to go get this," because the reality is, he wasn't in position to go get this in this last game.

He was in game one, but it, this, this thing seems to be running in another direction, where Carlisle, now the offense is flowing in a way that it didn't at the beginning.

So what has occurred in this series that you did not predict before the series that has now made you change your opinion?

How dependent the Oklahoma City Thunder bench and subs are on playing off of SGA and Jaylin Williams.

And how independent...

Like, if you would ask me who do I want, Alex Caruso or TJ McConnell? I would, I would have said going into the series, "Alex Caruso." He, he's, he's more accomplished, right? But Alex Caruso gets his off of SGA and Jaylin Williams.

And what Rick Carlisle has done is said, "We are going to make those guys work for 48 minutes.

We are going to grind Jaylin Williams and, and, and SGA, and if they get there, it's great, but we're going to press them 94 feet.

I'm going to play...

Yeah.

And I even spoke to another guy, who, like Dick, had his mind changed about the 2020 election.

I, I assumed that, uh, Donald Trump was telling me the, the truth, that they had firm evidence that it was definitely manipulation of the ballots.

They were arguing about the news a lot.... and the son started forwarding Rick the newsletter, including issues that were about the stolen election claims.

They weren't just laughing it off.

I have a trust in their news-gathering and presentation abilities head and shoulders above any other news-gathering source.

I have a trust level there that's, uh, unequaled.

Let me ask you, Rick, I mean, when they would tell you, you know, "Be careful of the wild man in the woods," w- what did that mean to you as, like, a little kid?

Well, just someone that, you know, just kind of lived out into the woods, uh, that, uh, really didn't come out to, uh, see anybody to, uh, you know, be a part of society, I would say.

Uh, but later on I found out, you know, what that kind of meant when I heard other words, 'cause they used to say, uh, a booger bear or the booger will get you if you go down there by yourself.

And it finally just kind of related when I started looking stuff up and understanding what it is, they were talking about a Bigfoot.

And I've, I...

You know, it was just, you know, just something I thought they were just kinda telling us just so we would stay out of the woods so we wouldn't get in trouble or get hurt and, and, uh, until it totally changed when I turned, like, around 12 or 13 when the, uh, uh, stuff started showing up and started happening around my area.

At, at one point we were hearing, like, uh, different things at night.

What's your take? What do you think it is?