You know, the other side of OSHA that we don't hear a lot about.

Yeah, when I was working in South Texas for BP, when I started my career with BP, there were lots and lots of fatalities down there.

We had the worst record in the region of anyone.

And a young lady died.

sent out a note inviting us to a meeting to meet with osha and i actually have a picture of my manager when he got that letter and he looked like literally like a deer in the headlights But great guy.

Went to the meeting.

We started off just asking questions.

I hear what David's saying, but, you know, is that really reality? How did you get people to buy in to the cooperative programs?