Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's, you know, it was a whole different thing for me.

Um, but one of the things that when I was in the radio business, one of the things that made me happy was to sit down, you know, put somebody in the studio with you and, and just do an, you know, a little interview here and there and break off and do some music or whatever.

Um, actually it was kind of weird.

Um, We had a local bunch of local wrestlers that would come in and, um, this guy that, that would come in.

He's like, uh, his name was the nature boy, buddy Landell.

And it's it's a very compelling story.