And Richard, I, you, I know you spoke with them last week, right?

I did.

I did.

Um, I, uh, was aware of them before.

I'd seen sort of some of their, their vlogs and s- stuff like that.

Um, but, but I really wanted to talk to them after seeing their video about being banned because, uh, there were several elements of the story that really interested me.

So their names are Jonathan and Laura Fain, and they go by, um, he goes by Fain, and they post on social media outlets as Travel Spree.

People who get excited about new cruise ships have something to look forward to, but there's a little catch here.