Richard S. Jaffe

Yeah.

Um, so this is Richard Jaffe, J-A-F-F-E.

Yeah.

Um, he's a Birmingham retrial counsel.

I don't know what that is.

Good one.

Uh, she, uh, Judy said she broke down several times during questioning from Richard Jaffe.

Uh, she was questioned for more than two hours by defense and prosecution altogether.