then.

So when the lockdown came, it hit hard the hand-to-mouth people than the people who had a little bit of savings.

These are the virtual people who Today, about 7,000 of them live around the protected areas of Ubundi and Mugahinga conservation areas.

These are forests that once were their homes.

But when conservation took a toll in the 1990s, then they were forced out of the forests to live in the communities which were already established and thriving faster than these people were used to before then.

they were hunting and gathering in the forests living on collecting what to survive on now they join communities where they have to work and survive so to cut the story short 2020 covid comes in and then they are rocked up just like any other person But these are people who have been surviving on hand to mouth.

So being not able to earn a living in a formal way, they are working as wage earners on a daily basis, either working for food or a small pay.

And Richard, you have two minutes, I think.