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Rich Lyons

Rich Lyons

Chancellor of the University of California, Berkeley

Oct 6, 2026

11:27
This is really about something bigger, isn't it?
11:30
Well, that would be a symptom, Andrea, but the disease is that you have – it's really throughout Western civilization, isn't it? So take Europe and take ourselves, and it's an identity crisis of the nation state.
11:43
You have France that has a tremendous history, but their own teachers and their own – the parents of children are saying, well, you know, France isn't that great.
11:52
In fact, we've been evil, right? Right.
11:55
And Christianity isn't central to life anymore.
11:58
It's on the periphery, and it's insulted.
12:01
And you have tens of millions of migrants coming in.
16:33
And it's beginning to take root here, isn't it, Richard Lyons?
85:52
In what way are these divided by way of topics relating to the overarching subject of democracy?
85:58
Well, Volume 1, Brian, is all about how our Constitution was established created from many elements in the history of humanity going back to the Ten Commandments, the first common law of humanity which entailed the obedience of king and priest as well as commoner.
86:18
And it goes through Greece and it goes through Rome and it goes through the slow evolution of the common law in England based on the Magna Carta and arrives in America among the Native Americans when the pilgrims landed and the influence that they had on governance in America.
86:37
And it arrives to the Constitutional Convention after the Revolution in 1787 in Philadelphia.
86:46
And how our Constitution was particularly put together based on the histories of former democracies and republics and all the virtuous governance based on Government, through the individual, individuals determine what government they have.
87:10
It's a question that goes back to Socrates.
87:12
Who rules who? In our government, the individual and individuals in assembly, through representation, rule themselves.
91:09
in violation of the very principles our country is founded upon, which sort of leads us, I believe, to Passages Through the Shadows, which is Volume 3, where you discuss this kind of place where we seem to be now, this sort of questioning this own beautiful experiment that's been so successful.
2:48
In what way are these divided by way of topics relating to the overarching subject of democracy?
2:54
Well, Volume 1, Brian, is all about how our Constitution was established created from many elements in the history of humanity going back to the Ten Commandments, the first common law of humanity which entailed the obedience of king and priest as well as commoner and it goes through Greece and it goes through Rome and it goes through the slow evolution of the common law in England based on the Magna Carta and arrives in America among the Native Americans when the pilgrims landed and the influence that they had on governance in America.
3:34
And it arrives to the Constitutional Convention after the Revolution in 1787 in Philadelphia.
3:43
And how our Constitution was particularly put together based on the histories of former democracies and republics and all the virtuous governance based on Government, through the individual, individuals determine what government they have.
4:06
It's a question that goes back to Socrates.
4:09
Who rules who? In our government, the individual and individuals in assembly, through representation, rule themselves.
4:19
The government doesn't dictate to individuals what they can and cannot do.
8:05
in violation of the very principles our country is founded upon, which sort of leads us, I believe, to Passages Through the Shadows, which is Volume 3, where you discuss this kind of place where we seem to be now, this sort of questioning this own beautiful experiment that's been so successful.
8:26
But where would you like to start with that context of democracy and specifically their claim that everything that's happening now is a threat to it?
8:40
Well, I would begin, I suppose, at the Constitutional Convention.
8:46
If you go to the DNA of democracy, which is volume one here, it goes through the history.
8:51
It goes back to the Ten Commandments, the first common law of humanity.
8:55
And why was that important? It was God's law on earth, and it was a gift to mankind.
9:02
And it entailed the kings, priests, and commoners and prophets.
9:10
Everybody had the same obligation to the law.

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30:46
Yeah.
42:25
But how do you think we're doing here? And how long can this be sustained if it doesn't have the support of the American people?
42:36
Well, with the midterms coming, Jeff, that's going to be the key question.
42:41
And I am surprised now that we have waited this long without going kinetic again and making another attack on 30% of targets that have still been unaddressed in Iran.
42:55
I understand that you're dealing with, you know, you're dealing with now the third level of leadership after the first two levels were difficult.
43:03
Dealing with clerics and the IRGC and their generals who, and they're all literally let's be clear, fighting for their lives.
43:12
It's not just their fortunes that they've got saved in Europe or where else in the world.
43:18
They're fighting for their lives because if there is a change of regime, their lives will be at risk.
43:44
I mean, you know, democratic systems, the people get to vote and, you know, they normally express their displeasure if the economy is not good, right?

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