Yeah.

And the culture into which you're born, and the culture may be, you know, it isn't necessarily your national culture, it can be the culture of the people around you, that i- is hugely important.

And, you know, we tend in today's world to say, "Well, you know, we can't say things like that," you know? Uh, and yet this guy is clearly a liberal, you know, he's clearly a r- a humanist, a liberal, and all the rest of it.

But he says, "Look, there are certain cultures which are just..." Well, in your word, ego t- toxic.

And we shouldn't ignore the fact that someone from those cultures may well not have, you know, got rid of all that toxicity.

You n- you need to be quite realistic about that.

Um, and it's...

Yeah.