Has a daughter.

He has a daughter and evidently a son that he's estranged from.

And then in 1950, it was March 1950, he's outside the Vaghi Woodworking Building and he looks up at the sky and there's three Navy, what he called Navy biplanes, and a Of course, he was in the Air Force, so he was taught to identify aircraft.

Right, he could tell what a plane silhouette was.

So he saw these three biplanes flying over, but then he looked, and far above the biplanes, he saw this curious object, this large wing-shaped thing that was flying, kind of making big loops over Bethel.

And he looked at it.

It came lower.

Why don't you read that?

How did you meet him?

I was living in Reading.

This is the early 1980s.

And, you know, Reading is right next to Bethel, where Dante lived.

And I would go into Bethel, and I can't recall, but I needed some sort of repair done to a chair, I believe we had.

And there was a large building next to the old Bethel railroad station, Vaghi Woodworking Company.

And I remember there were large signs on the outside of the building dealing with UFOs, and I always was curious about them.

Did he ever face criticism?