There you go.

Uh, eh, uh, uh, that, you know, that's something that, a- at least for me and most, most conductor colleagues I know, uh, have talked about this, uh, say it, it's constantly evolving.

I don't study a score anyway like I did years ago.

Um, I, I think that, uh, the, the most important thing to me, ultimately, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sound like Gary Green for a second, w- working backwards, forward for a second.

I wanna get to the point that I feel like that I have absolutely internalized my passion and commitment and vision for that piece, and then how I want to share that with the musicians and end up cultivating a performance that represents the composer's intent.

Uh, the, the, the...

If we wanna put steps into the process, I- the first time I start looking...

I think that's-