yeah and I know I mean Vanderbilt and every opponent now changes year to year I don't care that's a much better program like I said 10 straight at home and they went up there and just unloaded on them tell me about what what you understand Pete Golding's mindset was uh leaving Gainesville because they put that that bye week to use to dial up some pressures

Yeah, they did, and it was interesting.

They got after Curtis pretty good in the first half.

They were pretty basic in the second half.

Now, obviously, I think it was 42-3 at halftime, and so they weren't going to be real exotic in that second half.

But, you know, they tackled better.

That has been an issue.

So your question is, can you get that going forward?

... to get people on and all of that, if that makes sense.

I, I would say that it's ongoing.

Uh, I don't know that I was disconnected from the political arena before I kinda stepped into this, um, o- on, on day one or, or when it began.

I, I knew some of those people, had met them along the way, whether it was- You know, at the random political fundraiser or when they were in town in Oxford for ballgames or through friends that I had that kind of worked in the, in the political arena.

But certainly that network has grown, and it's grown dramatically.

And I, I just gotta be honest, people have been very kind.

They've been very kind to me.

... landscape of this governor's race?

So what was the similarities and challenges between your experience of supporting the justice system, if you like, and then supporting a large provider in terms of a culture of using Sandra Bloom's

sanctuary model? Well, the sanctuary model...

also embraces some of these ideas so the sanctuary model is actually an adaptive therapeutic community approach so the sanctuary model had a toolkit which had a series of helpful understandable components for residential care staff and residential managers to apply some of these principles that we've been speaking about So it had, for instance, it had what was a community meeting, which was a group space where people could come together and think.

It had an approach which staff and young people knew would be utilised to think about how we dealt with emergencies.

That was called a red flag meeting.

Anybody could call it.

So it was a proactive approach to be able to say something's going on here.

So what would that look like in practice?