Yeah, yeah

... it's gonna be affecting maybe a, a, a part of the region with, um, you know, maybe three or four functions involved.

And this is a realization that most leaders need to really grapple with.

You can't, most of you don't have enough power to even contemplate trying to redesign the entire system.

And even if you do, most of the time it's a pipe dream, unless you're lucky enough to get someone like Stefan to actually start asking you the right questions about how it might happen.

So what does redesign actually looks like? Well, it looks like creating an island of coherence.

So the island of coherence is, is both your own team, which is ca- capable of the interpretive work, the allies and the sponsors, and then some kind of bounded space where you can experiment in a way that-

Yeah