When you're walking the dogs or you're out on the beach or something, what are you listening to? Uh, do you listen to music at all outside of, you know, what you, what you usually are associated with?

I listen to a lot of music, so does the wifey, and we listen to, uh, music, uh, when she's cooking 'cause she's a fantastic cook, uh, together.

It surprises the hell out of a lot of people when I say we listen to Brazilian jazz.

Huge fan of Brazilian jazz.

My favorite song in the world, period, that I want played at my, uh, wake in about 100 years' time, is by Sergio Mendes, and it's called Mas Que Nada.

[Mas Que Nada playing] Fantastic-

Where, where are you on the Morrissey fan wagon?

Oh, I think he's such a talent.

And so were you a fan of this move?

Yeah, I, I, I was a fan of The Cult, always.

Uh, you know, they started as Southern Death Cult, then Death Cult, and then just The Cult because of the pressure from, uh, BBC, you know, playing the songs.

They've always continued to evolve, and I always respect a band that can e- evolve, that stay true to their core, and their core was rock.

And that was what you expected.

Same with Billy Idol.

Billy's core is rock with a dance beat.

Where, where are you on the Morrissey bandwagon?

Are you finding it's a lot of parents like our age bringing our kids?

Oh, yeah.

Loads and loads of kids there.

And I really love doing that to kind of single out the kids.

I'll always try and pick one of the youngest ones and get them to stand up and come to the front of the stage and, you know, ask them how old they are and their favorite groups from the 80s.

And it's...

Amazing.

What is going on with this happy hour? What's happening here?

Are you finding it's a lot of parents like our age bringing our kids?

Oh, yeah.

Loads and loads of kids there.

And I really love doing that to kind of single out the kids.

I'll always try and pick one of the youngest ones and get them to stand up and come to the front of the stage and, you know, ask them how old they are and their favorite groups from the 80s.

And it's...

Amazing.

What is going on with this happy hour? What's happening here?

Yeah,

because it was the light program and the light program played artists such as... tom jones and bing crosby and only on a saturday evening for one hour would they play pop music you know the current stuff and kids were going crazy so it opened a window for pirate radio to start which was these ships uh you know floating off of the british coast more than three miles out so they were in what's called international waters and they would broadcast in from there and the pirate radio dj's got a huge following and i thought god that would be great but it was so hard to break into radio because once BBC went nationwide with radio one, which was not 24 hours a day at the time, it would go off the air at 11 at night and come back on at six in the morning.

And it was a few years later, it went 24 hours, same as TV used to be that way.

And, and, With only one channel, that meant there was a total of eight DJs for 50 million people.

So the odds of some kid who's playing mobiles in Oxford being picked up to replace Tony Blackburn or Emperor Roscoe was slim to none.

So even though I'd make the tapes and send them in hoping, I thought, God, there's no way I'm going to break into radio.

But I never let the drive leave me.

So speaking of, so, so your, how did the opportunity at K-Rock come about?

Is that

correct? Yeah, that was the last novel I wrote.

Yeah.

And that was based on a true story that happened about eight miles away from where I grew up at a place called Slapped in Sands.

And it was the Americans training for D-Day.

And D-Day has always been important for me because I grew up in a town called Torquay and the American 101st loaded onto the boats to sail over to help free the world in D-Day from Torquay.

And I used to row.

He goes,

So how did you land your two gigs with Michael Jackson and Barbra Streisand? And also, how did that happen? But also, how did that make you feel about the events, but also about yourself as a DJ, if you will?

The Barbra Streisand one came first, and that really was a huge turning point for me in my DJing career, as a mobile DJ particularly, because I'd been doing a number of gigs, and I'd work with a party planner called Movable Feast.

She'd do all the catering and party supplies and and tablecloths and things like that.

And she said, I've got a client who has got a bar mitzvah coming up.

And I had no clue what a bar mitzvah was at the time.

I came from a small town in England that didn't have a large Jewish community, but I figured I'd worked in a lot of bars, so I would be okay.

So I could make it work.

But now how is that relationship, if you will, sustained over the course of the years and also currently?