And I just think that he had that real balance to do that.

And I met Charlie Kirk one time, and it was at the University of Washington.

He was speaking to students, and it was in an auditorium.

He had been speaking outside, and Tifa had given a hard time.

He was even late coming in, and he wanted to talk to the pastors first who were there.

And he was very gracious, and he didn't have as much time as he wanted.

He shook all our hands, just said hi.

Yeah.