the kind of the slightly, not necessarily directly related to the drug taking, but certainly into the circulation and the business of cocaine.

Right, so right at the moment, apparently there's a global glut.

So people are producing it overseas.

are looking for new markets.

And as we've already said, New Zealand is a relatively undeveloped market, or has been.

So let's push them down there.

Australasia is seen as a sort of place where you can do business.

And so ultimately the import of this kind of stuff and the consumption of this stuff at the customer end is all funding gang activity as well and some of the other, you know, crimes that can affect society out of that gang activity.

So what is it she was convicted of? What did she do?

Family violence, basically.

Right.

She had been in a relationship with another woman and things didn't go well.

She broke into this woman's house.

She broke a television.

She assaulted her.

Or, you know, go and commit a crime somewhere, get some cash.

Right, and w- how, how close is this monitoring? Are we talking about like a weekly call in to a, a parole officer or...

Yes, it, it'll be done by probation.

Um, um, and they'll be monitoring them.

They'll be looking at risk factors, and they'll be doing a dynamic risk assessment.

How are things changing for this, this person? You know, have they...

Are they s- still in a stable relationship or are they, um...

M- maybe, uh, how, how's their housing situation? Have they got a job? Th- those things that they call pro- protective factors that will help keep people on the straight and narrow.

Right.

Is it something that applies more broadly than gangs? Because I feel like we hear the stories about seizing of gang assets and that kind of thing that have come from from criminal activity, but where else do we see this? Oh,

anybody who's been involved in any sort of criminal thing.

I mean, that's why people do crime, isn't it? To get themselves a return.

But I guess there is a threshold in the sense that it has to be something that they've amassed.

I mean, if you're doing petty crime and you're stealing stuff to eat or whatever, you're not really amassing assets.

Mm-hmm.

But what the police will do is they'll get your – you'll get, you know, whatever you've declared at IRD and notice that you've been living on a benefit.

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