What do you think an employer and, or an employee might do when they see some of these things, or when they see that some of these things are, um, accounted for with this legislation?

Yes.

I think, uh, you know, certainly what I'd like to do is, is, I, I guess, um, do two myth busters.

One is, and I've had plenty of hospitality, uh, people come to me and say, "Oh, what does this mean?" And they're very up- upset and angry because they're thinking, "As a business owner, does this mean I can't actually come to Dani and say, 'Hang on, you're not cutting the mustard here.

You're actually not doing what I'm asking you to do,' because I'm gonna get slapped with, um, some complaints and the thing around, um, you know, psychological safety?" Really, that's not what this is all about.

Yes, there's gonna be some, uh, staff who are going to try and use the new regulations in that way, but we had that also in the physical side as well.

Back pain, all of those.

When you talk about culture, when you talk about structure, when you talk about check-ins, like w- what might some of these things look like day to day?

Can we touch on that? Can we talk about the laws and how it's changed and how it affects what people have to do?

Yeah.

So I think a- as you see, it's not now i- it used to be in the nice to have bucket, but now there is the whole thing of national harm in the psychosocial and psychological hazard laws.

And I think where things have changed in the last couple of years, that every jurisdiction in Australia now is aligned with the model that's the Work Health Safety regulations and codes of practice.

And, you know, we can put a link up for people so they can see that.

Um, and, and Victoria has gone further, and they've introduced an occ health and safety term psychological health regulations in 2025, and they're quite explicit.

It's very clear around what the hazards are, what the employers are needing to do, and really saying that it's much more now than just doing your EAPs and policies.

... your veterinarians or your nurses are run off their feet because you're just booking it in and slamming them all day"?