None.

But yeah, there was like none.

I remember I did go to the gym a few times and lifted weights for a while, but I ended up just going to mostly the aerobics classes.

And that's really what I did in my 20s and 30s.

And finally, in my mid 30s, I ended up having a son, Garrett.

when I was about 34.

Now, before I had Garrett, I had started into running.

I

Mm-hmm.

And, and so it was finally time for my category to be called, and I remember hearing them say, "Texas," and then they said my name, and I, I just froze [laughs] because I thought, I- I... "What, what happened here?" You know, I was, like, totally prepared not to win.

So I was excited.

I get...

You know, I try to, uh, get my hopes up, but not too much.

I try to be, uh, practical, too.

So I was in shock.

You started lifting weights.