What, what has gotten you through your chain? Like when you've changed careers in the past?

I think I've known internally that there's just something that's, not snapping for me anymore, right? Something's not connecting anymore.

And it's time for me to think about what might be next and start planning in that way for all of my changes.

So again, I was a broadcast journalist, undergrad, graduated.

And I thought, I don't know that this is really the career for me for different reasons.

So I'm like, okay, what can outside do? And then I happened into investor relations and that's not something everybody went to school for, right? So it's like another little niche thing that I found my way into.

And it was wonderful and challenging.

Kind of transitioning then down that path that we were talking about earlier, What have you started doing to start stepping into the not-for-profit space? Because it is polar opposite from where you're coming from, right? So who are the connections, the people you're connecting with, or the organizations that you're supporting right now, the community work you're doing? How are you getting into that realm and stepping down that path?