So what's your definition of that full healing process? What does that look and how do we know we've moved through it from your perspective?

I think it starts with acknowledging, right? So let's say I can give it to you from the perspective of both the work that we do and some of the work that I've done, right, to overcome.

Yeah.

I think the first thing is acknowledging, right? That when something is triggering you all the time, there's a reason that it's triggering you.

There's a reason.

It's just, you don't just get upset out of no reason.

There's something that's happening, right? And so for me, that moment where that thing triggered me and then it triggered me again and then it's like being curious and say, wait a minute, why is this thing triggering me? Why does every time I see this, why is it that every time I hear this, I feel some visceral response to it? And so that was the first thing for me.

So do you have any stories you can share with us? Plenty of