From a Ericsson and a digital infrastructure viewpoint, let's say, what does dependency look like to you when you're building, for example, networks that customers rely on, customers that are even member states or national governments? Uh, why does it matter who provides the technology and under what rules maybe and what the level of trust is then?

Yes.

And I would like to start, I mean, from a business perspective, even before, uh, economic security was in vogue, there were expectation of, of companies that supply, uh, products or components into critical infrastructure that you have a resilience, uh, and diversification of supply chain.

So in that sense, we as a company in this context are not starting from a new world when people say economic security.

So we need to have, uh, diversified manufacturing.

I mean, we have two manufacturing sites in Europe.

We have in, in every on other continent.

Mm-hmm