You've launched Women in Leadership, and I'd love for you to tell our audience about that and your motivations behind launching that.

Yeah, so the Women in Leadership group through the society, or I started in the society, I should say, really started as I got more active with the CPCU Society and started attending the annual conferences as leadership development for myself.

And one of the things that I thought about was, okay, what is the gap that's missing, right? So we do very good technical training, but there was an opportunity in some of the soft skill pieces that I thought there may be something there.

So one year I sat when the call to proposal came And I said, okay, let me think.

What is something, if I were going to propose something, what is it that I would want to see? And what I thought was missing was the story of the female past presidents that we had.

Some of them I had seen at conferences.

I had started getting to know them from a mentor-mentee relationship.

led you or motivated you to earn additional credentials in the industry?