Oh.

Yeah, but, 'cause I, again, my, just- ... contextualize a bit.

[laughs] My mom was, uh, was in education.

Her family was, uh, kind of educators forever, and there's this old, um, tradition or I should say history of independent schools, private schools- Mm-hmm ...

in the greater Boston area, so it's kind of a thing.

And I think for my parents, frankly, it was also for my mom more so it was a bit of a status symbol.

So, like- Hmm ... we didn't have a lot of disposable income, but what we had was allocated to- Education ...

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Met a lot of people that were very gracious with me in terms of, of teaching me things and, and, um, introducing me to other people and other destinations.

And so now...

And then I, then I traveled a, a circuitous path within Orvis.

So I've done a lot of things.

I've worked...

The mainstay has been this, this job within what we call Orvis Adventures, where I work with our endorsed destinations, so I travel to those places quite a bit.

That's awesome